Thursday, January 23, 2025

Atheists who Hate White Christian Nationalists

There is currently a split between the atheist (aka secular, humanist, freethinker, rationalist) organizations and the White Christian nationalist movement.

The atheists say:

As organizations committed to protecting the separation of government and religion, as well as universal human and civil rights threatened by the White Christian nationalist ideology, the undersigned organizations reaffirm our commitment to forcefully advocate for the rights of LGBTQ-plus Americans ...

Nor will we sit silently or ignore when the talking points, misinformation and outright fabrications of anti-LGBTQ-plus extremists are laundered and given a veneer of legitimacy or acceptability by those who hold themselves out as voices of reason or science. ...

These unworkable, ill-conceived and plainly discriminatory laws and policies are about one thing: forcing a regressive, largely religious view of gender norms onto the American people. ...

We will continue to advocate for policies that protect the civil and human rights of every community that comes under threat from the White Christian nationalist ideology.

So who are these White Christian Nationalists, what are they so bigoted about?

There is no such thing. It turns out that these atheists call people White Christian nationalists the way Jews and others call people Nazis. It is just a meaningless epithet reserved for enemies.

The underlying issues starting this were some biologists saying that mammals have two sexes, and that men should not beat up women in boxing matches. For that, they are being called White Christian nationalists, as if that were a bad thing.

There is nothing wrong with being White, Christian, or nationalist. None of these have much to do with sex being binary. It is simply a scientific fact that mammalian sex is binary. The atheist organizations reject this, and they are rejecting science, not Christianity.

Most Americans are White, are Christian, and are nationalist. I would say that means that most Americans are White Christian nationalists. Some atheists seem to mean something else by the term, such as opposition to castrating boys in the name of transgenderism. Again, most people are against castrating boys.

Apparently we are heading to a split where atheists are in favor of castrating boys, and Christians are against it. Many atheists are very much against being defined this way.

There was a similar sort of split between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Harris was firmly against transgenderism, and Trump was firmly against boys playing in girls sports. Trump just issued this executive order:

Purpose. Across the country, ideologues who deny the biological reality of sex have increasingly used legal and other socially coercive means to permit men to self-identify as women and gain access to intimate single-sex spaces and activities designed for women, from women’s domestic abuse shelters to women’s workplace showers. This is wrong. ...

It is the policy of the United States to recognize two sexes, male and female. These sexes are not changeable and are grounded in fundamental and incontrovertible reality.

4 comments:

MikeAdamson said...

Christian Nationalists want a political system based on their interpretation of the Bible and its teachings. That atheists reject this idea is not much of a surprise.

CFT said...

Mike,
Common law is based on largely on Christianity which stresses individual accountability. Due process, private property, individual accountability, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly also flow from it as well.

Atheists have precious little to crow about historically, except for the promotion of perpetual nihilism and the death tolls of their several notably unsuccessful 'cultural revolutions' of the twentieth century. Atheists are largely ideological hypocrites as well since they (not so discreetly) worship the political power of the state as god and in largely academic communities hide their mysticism away in otherworldly universes they believe inform our world by way of Mathematical Platonism.

It isn't so much that atheists hate religion as that they want to replace other existing religions with their own, with them in power. Same Old Shit, new wrapping paper.

MikeAdamson said...

The Christianity that I know stresses love and mutual respect.

CFT said...

Mike,

The world 'mutual' means BOTH parties involved, not just one of them, so if you continuously look down your nose at someone, you don't have mutual respect at all, much less love, much less the Christianity you claim to know.

A person can't extoll virtues if they don't actually practice them...and you definitely don't practice them.