Tuesday, April 12, 2022

Doubts about Ukraine Train Missile Strike

This could be Russian propaganda.

RT reports:

A Tochka U ballistic missile, which reportedly killed dozens of civilians in the Ukrainian city of Kramatorsk on Friday, came from a town under the control of Ukrainian forces, the Russian Defense Ministry has claimed.

The missile was fired from Dobropole, around 45km southwest of the city, Moscow stated.

The deadly strike hit the main train station in Kramatorsk when an estimated 4,000 people were waiting for evacuation trains there. The latest casualty count by the city administration said 39 people were killed in the incident and 87 were injured.

Kramatorsk is a city in the northern part of the Donetsk region, and is claimed by the Donetsk People’s Republic as part of its territory. When hostilities broke out in eastern Ukraine in the wake of the 2014 Maidan, the city remained under Kiev’s control.

Kiev accused Russia of hitting the station, claiming civilians were targeted deliberately with the intent to kill. President Volodymyr Zelensky said it serves as the latest example that Russia is “evil that knows no boundaries.”

Initial claims from Ukrainian officials said an Iskander missile was used, but images of a Tochka U tail part taken at the scene later flooded social media. Kramatorsk Mayor Aleksandr Goncharenko said missile debris was found 40 meters from where most of the damage was done. Dozens reported killed in Donbass rocket strike

The Russian Defense Ministry denied any responsibility for the attack. It said that Ukrainian troops must have targeted the station to disrupt the evacuation and keep civilians in the city so that they could be used as human shields during an upcoming fight for it.

The ministry claimed that Kiev is the only party in the Ukraine conflict that uses outdated Soviet-made Tochka U missiles. It said that pro-Ukraine accounts on social media claim that Russia has them as well, but the images presented as evidence were taken in Belarus, which does have some Tochka U systems in its arsenal.

It is absurd to say Russia is “evil that knows no boundaries.” Both sides are putting out propaganda. I look forward to an explanation of this missile attack.

There is a lot of talk about war crimes, and I am skeptical. In any war, both sides accuse each other of war crimes. 

Recent elections in France and Hungary have had the nationalists labeled "far right" by the Western press, as if nationalism were a bad thing. So why is nationalism good in Ukraine, if it is bad in France and Hungary?

Update: Here is a Jimmy Dore video explaining that Twitter censors those who doubt claims about Russian atrocities. The NY Times reports that the supposed actrocities at Bucha might have been faked by Ukraine, but if you say so on Twitter, you get banned.

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