Sunday, April 17, 2016

Bernie Sanders' guiding principle

CNN reports:
Though raised Jewish, Sanders says that he is "not particularly religious," nor is he a member of any congregation or synagogue. "I am not actively involved in organized religion," he has told reporters.

But at a CNN town hall in New Hampshire in February, Sanders seemed to contradict himself.

"It's a guiding principle in my life, absolutely," said the Vermont senator and Democratic presidential candidate.

"You know, everyone practices religion in a different way. To me, I would not be here tonight, I would not be running for president of the United States if I did not have very strong religious and spiritual feelings."

So what gives? Is Bernie Sanders religious or not?
The confusion here is that Judaism is not a religion like Christianity. It is an ethnic identification that he was born with, and a set of political ideologies.

Sanders is a leftist authoritarian. There is a long tradition of Jews being leftist authoritarians, and of despising Christian culture and values.

So maybe Sanders does not believe in God, or participate in the sorts of things that Christians recognize as religious. But he is very much in the Jewish tradition of leftist authoritarian anti-American ideologies, and this tradition if obviously very important to him.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

He said, ""You know, everyone practices religion in a different way." Do you have a problem with the way Christians practice their religion ? Do all Christians practice their religion in the same way ?

The confusion here is that Judaism is not a religion like Christianity. It is an ethnic identification that he was born with, and a set of political ideologies.

Sanders is a leftist authoritarian. There is a long tradition of Jews being leftist authoritarians, and of despising Christian culture and values.

You have nothing to back these statements up with, right ? You just made them up. Sanders never said any of these things and I don't know of anyone other than you saying these things about him, or his religion.

Haven't you heard of Judeo-Christian values ? How can Judaism not be a religion like Christianity ? How can Jews despise Christian culture and values like you say, when they share the same values ?

It's true that he hasn't been caught in bathrooms having sex like a lot of the more evangelical conservatives. In this way, Sanders religious values appear very different.

Roger said...

I supplied the link to the CNN story. You can check the links for yourself, if you do not believe them.

Do you doubt that Sanders is a leftist authoritarian? Just listen to any of his speeches. He even calls himself a Socialist.

Yes, I have heard of Judeo-Christian values. I have also noticed that Jews would much rather live in Christian countries than countries dominated by Islam or any other religion.

Your last sentence is just some sort of bigoted attack against Christians. You will find that Jews promote sexual perversions much more than Christians.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I reject the notion of Judeo-Christian values like they are some monolithic set of values with a common heritage. Judaism may have some commonalities with Christianity, and in that sense one could say Judeo-Christian when there is overlap. But Christianity did not originate from Judaism. Christ was not born Jewish, and The Bible as it is printed today is a lot of texts from different times and authors that have been put together as an Old Testament and a New Testament. One can see how different those two testaments are. Almost as though there is no relationship between them at all except for the fact that they have been published in the same book. They are certainly written within a very different cultural milieu.

The confusion which has been handed down through generations is a result of concealing the difference between the Roman concept of Divinity and the Jewish concept of Monotheism. And becomes so obvious when the Christian Trinity is equated with Monotheism. Three but One. It is an obvious joke. Christ himself is a conceptual palimpsest, full of contradiction. He undoubtedly has an historical counterpart to the mythos of the Gospels, and that counterpart is very probably one or more of the Roman Divinities of the time. In terms of forgiveness, Julius Caesar is probably the origin of that as is the death of Christ in terrible circumstances. Augustus is probably the origin of bringing the sword and of the anger at the corruption of sacred places. Vesta and the Vestal virgins are the origin of the Holy Mother Mary. And the Holy Spirit finds it origins in the likes of the Oracles and Seers of the time. Pure inspiration mixed with superstition. None of this has anything to do with Judaism whatsoever. I suspect Jewish scholars played a large part in bringing together such an idea as Judeo-Christianity as a means, or an attempt to facilitate Jewish acceptance within Christendom.

So, Roger, when you say that Jews have a preference to live in Christian countries, I absolutely concur with that. It also would not surprise me if they prefer it to living in Israel also. The notion of Judeo-Christianity helps facilitates that. Jewish behaviour all through this has remained the same, and as such has led to conflicts over the ages. But where it has succeeded, the Christians take a bow before the Jewish religion and the Chosen people as though they were the founders. Back to that confusion between Roman Divinity and Jewish Monotheism.

Anonymous said...

I couldn't find the link that you mention anywhere. I don't consider Sanders a leftist authoritarian. He's what he says he is, a Social Democrat, which is a good thing in my opinion. When the U.S. was more socialistic, the U.S. was a stronger and better country in almost every way. The economy was stronger when a greater precentage of the population belonged to unions and the very rich were taxed at a much higher rate. The only people better off now are the top 1 or 2 percent. Do you belong to to top 1 or 2% ? If so, I can imagine why you'd have problems with Sanders' policies.

You say, "I have also noticed that Jews would much rather live in Christian countries than countries dominated by Islam or any other religion." Well of course. Why wouldn't Jews want to live in countries that have Judeo Christian values ? It only makes sense, right ? I've noticed that Christians also like to live in countires that have Judeo Christian values. Are you trying to make some point by noting this ?

Jews promote sexual perversions more than Christians ? Where did you come up with that from ? It's almost always those Bible thumpers geting caught having sex with prostitutes in sleazy motels and bathrooms, isn't it ? There's lists of how many have been caught and the most religious Christian, "Family Values" politicians are caught the most frequently, wouldn't you says ?

As far as bigots; A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions:
I am very tolerant of those holding different opinions. I'm tolerant of your opinions. there's frequuently a lot of merit to them and I often agree with them. How tolerant are you of Sander's and other's different opinions that don't match your own ? Not so much, huh ?

Again, you said, "There is a long tradition of Jews being leftist authoritarians, and of despising Christian culture and values."

You have nothing to back these statements up with, right ? You just made them up. Sanders never said any of these things and I don't know of anyone other than you saying these things about him, or his religion.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nerve.com/news/politics/republican-sex-scandals-outnumber-democrat-sex-scandals-two-to-one

There's other articles with very detailed comparisons and they all show that the right is involved in more sex scandals, while they are the party that's constantly preaching family values and morality themes, and such.

The left doesn't care what Repub.s or anyone does in their beds or private life. The conservative, right sure does and it's amazing how they feel like they're in a position to judge ? And don't even get me started on the televangelists or the Catholic church. The list is too long. Is that bigotry ? Or hypocrisy ? Or both ?

Roger said...

If the left does not care, then why do you refer me to a leftist site that complains about it? Why are you complaining about it? You brought it up, not me.

Yes, I won't get you started on your bigotry and hypocrisy.

Anonymous said...

There's plenty of sites that write about it. Besides, they are complaining about how the right cares about it and how they don't practice what they preach, anfd they do a lot of preaching, don't they now ? You bring up sex in your posts very frequently, don't you ?

You brought up bigotry.. Lack a decent argument and you resort to name calling. That's what bigots do, isn't it ?

Still dodging this one ?
Again, you said, "There is a long tradition of Jews being leftist authoritarians, and of despising Christian culture and values."

You have nothing to back these statements up with, right ? You just made them up. Sanders never said any of these things and I don't know of anyone other than you saying these things about him, or his religion.

Roger said...

If you want to post examples of politicians who do not practice what they preach, then go ahead, but I do not see what it has to do with Jews being leftist authoritarians. If you want examples of the Jewish left, then I suggest the Wikipedia article on the subject. If you want examples of despising Christian culture and values, just look at most of the Hollywood output.

Anonymous said...


I've seen a lot of Hollywood output. What output do you object to that was put out by Jews ?
Given the billions moviegoers spend on Hollywood output and businesses being out to profit, Hollywood is just giving the public what the public wants to pay to see. If it wasn't, then Hollywood would go broke, wouldn't it ? along with the Jews that control Hollywood. If pro-Christian movies were in such demand then Hollywood would pump out pro-Christian movies, don't you think ?

Jews don't despise Christians. I've known hundreds of Jews and never once heard anything from a Jew about hating or despising Christians. I've never met anyone Jew or non Jew say anything about Jews hating Christians, because they don't. I think it's in your head. You're seeing things that aren't there and connecting some dots that don't connect to each other.

Anonymous said...

http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/177211/why-do-jews-intermarry-at-a-much-higher-rate-than/

If Jews despise Christians so much why are they marrying Christians so frequently compared to other interfaith marriages. It's because Jews don't despise Christians, and Christians have a favorable opinion of Jews, for the most part. In a gneration or two, it's been predicted, there will be hardly and Jews left at the rate things are going. You don't have to worry. Soon there will be no one trying to brainwash you or your children into being more Jewish or whatever it is you're so afraid of.

Roger said...

I did not say that Jews despise Christians, or that anyone is trying to brainwash me into being more Jewish.

Anonymous said...

"There is a long tradition of Jews being leftist authoritarians, and of despising Christian culture and values."

You said that there's a long tradition of Jews despising Christian culture and values. I don't think there's much difference. You also said, "Many Jews identify as non-white, and work to undermine whites. So you think that these many Jews that are working to undermine whites, like the whites that they are trying to undermine ? Is this "underminig" very different than brainwashing ?

So, these Jews despise Christian values and culture but don't despise the Christians, themselves ? That seems hard to believe, or at least, inconsistent. What do you mean by Jews are trying to undermine Whites ?

What the harm in the Hollywood output that you brought up ? What do you think this Hollywood output is intended to do ?