The Titanic Black Pill

The 1997 movie Titanic is considered one of the most successful movies of all time. Women in particular thought that it was the greatest love story.

Among red pillers, Rose is one of the great movie villains. One of the main aims of civilization is to tame the malevolent instincts of women, and Rose is a good example.

Rose betrays her rich and devoted finance in order to have one night with a slightly more exciting homeless man. She steals the rich man's extremely valuable diamond, lets the poor man die, and becomes an alpha widow.

After the shipwreck, she gets married and has a family, but never really loves them. She throws her stolen diamond into the ocean, rather than leave an inheritance for her family. She is pathologically selfish and narcissistic throughout the movie.

Pearl Davis explains this in a video from about a year ago. She points out Rose's big movie line:

I would rather be his whore than your wife.

Nobody thinks this movie is misogynist. It was extremely popular with women. They recoil with horror at the suggestion that Rose is evil.

It is not so much that Rose decides to be evil, but she follows female human nature. The movie is a big lesson about unchecked female behavior.

I started to say that this was a red pill movie, but now I think it is black pill. Here is a description of the difference:

The Black Pill and Red Pill are both terms used in online communities to describe different perspectives on society and human behavior. The Red Pill is associated with a belief in traditional gender roles, self-improvement, and a rejection of mainstream narratives. It encourages individuals to seek out the truth and take control of their lives. In contrast, the Black Pill is a more nihilistic viewpoint that emphasizes the futility of life and the inevitability of suffering. It often leads to a sense of hopelessness and resignation. While both perspectives offer critiques of society, the Red Pill tends to focus on empowerment and personal growth, while the Black Pill leans towards pessimism and despair.

In the movie, achieving a successful relationship with Rose is impossible. She has no redeeming qualities, except that she is pretty.

Yes, I know that 99% of the reviews say that Rose is the hero, not the villain. The fact that her behavior is so acceptable to so many is revealing. Not only that, but women see this as the greatest movie ever. They see her character as admirable. That is the real black pill. The movie is fiction but the universal admiration is real.

If you google black pill, you will find sources saying that it is misogynist. That is like saying the Titanic movie is misogynist. It is, in the sense that the female protagonist is such a bad person.

I asked an AI LLM about this, and it said I was all wrong. It said "the movie positions Rose as a heroine of self-liberation, not consistent selfishness or narcissism." It cites her mother favoring the engagement, her near suicide, and her posing nude.

In the movie, it is not really a near suicide. As Jack points out, if she really wanted to kill herself she would have jumped before he arrived. No, she was just trying to get attention.

As for posing nude before the homeless guy Jack, the AI says:

The nude drawing scene isn't just about nudity — it's about vulnerability, trust, artistic expression, and reclaiming her body from being treated as an object (Cal sees her as a trophy; Jack sees her as a person). Rose says, "It's overwhelming... being with you." It's a moment of genuine intimacy and rebellion against her repressed life. The film treats it as empowering, not trivial — part of her awakening to passion, independence, and living authentically.

Cal was proposing to marry her and make her rich. Jack was using her for a one-night stand. The AI is reflecting conventional wisdom here. The modern accepted view of self-liberation is for a pretty girl to pose nude for a homeless man she just met.

the film's intent is clear: her arc is about breaking free from oppression, not entitlement. ...

The movie's core message is that Rose rejects that path [marrying Cal] to choose authenticity, adventure, and self-determination.

Living the life of an alpha widow is a much worse oppression than anything from Cal. She would have been freer and happier taking her mother's advice.

These are harsh, modern interpretations (often from online forums like Reddit) that project cynicism onto a fictional romantic tale. ...

James Cameron crafted it as a celebration of love inspiring a full life — Rose fulfills her promise to Jack by surviving and thriving, including building a family.

Cameron's other movies have some strange messages. Especially the Avatar movies.

Here is a recent comment:

Titanic? Really? I had more empathy for the guy whose car they defiled than either character. Hundreds of actual real people died on that ship so we could have a back drop to a trite and unbelievably sappy romance about fictional characters? The ending was beyond annoying too with the whole throwing a unique priceless heirloom into the ocean, you know to "let go" of Jack. you know -- that boy she knew for almost 4 whole days.