tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post2644605277155948658..comments2024-03-28T18:09:31.814-07:00Comments on Singular Values: California has too many immigrantsRogerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-24437253067164124632016-05-30T13:53:33.505-07:002016-05-30T13:53:33.505-07:00Californians were under Mexican rule. Ruling isn&...Californians were under Mexican rule. Ruling isn't defined as forcing people to do things differently than they had been doing. The laws were changed to Mexican law. They were under Mexican law. That means that they were ruled by Mexico.<br /> <br />Foreigners were limited in their purchase of land grants.<br />1824 Foreigners could also purchase land grants, but no more than 71.5 square Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-40209885201130468082016-05-30T09:33:08.690-07:002016-05-30T09:33:08.690-07:00If California were really under Mexican rule, do y...If California were really under Mexican rule, do you have some example where those Mexican rulers forced Californians to do something different from what they were doing already? Your source just cites some trends that continued independently of Mexico.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-49338767977322268062016-05-30T07:21:26.333-07:002016-05-30T07:21:26.333-07:00California under Mexican rule (1821–1846)
Substan...California under Mexican rule (1821–1846)<br /><br />Substantial changes occurred during the second quarter of the 19th century. The victory in the Mexican War of Independence from Spain in 1821 marked the end of a European power ruling California; the missions faded in importance under Mexican control, while ranching and trade increased.<br /><br />Calif. was under Mexican rule. What are you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-3291013645099555122016-05-29T21:05:46.738-07:002016-05-29T21:05:46.738-07:00This is like arguing that the USA stole California...This is like arguing that the USA stole California from the Indians, or from the missionaries, or from the bears, or from the redwoods. Mexico never governed California.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-87069678655960358892016-05-29T16:07:01.727-07:002016-05-29T16:07:01.727-07:00Mexico rejected the offer. It says Mexico was mad...Mexico rejected the offer. It says Mexico was made an offer, not a bribe. Of course, it was disputed. After Mexico rejected the PURCHASE offer, the U.S. put up a false flag. Did the U.S. pay a bribe to the French or the Russians when they made offers to purchase land ? Mexico made no bogus claim.<br /><br />California under Mexican rule (1821–1846)<br /><br />Substantial changes occurred Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-14922047164175666172016-05-29T14:30:44.791-07:002016-05-29T14:30:44.791-07:00Mexico operates by bribery. Just because someone o...Mexico operates by bribery. Just because someone offered Mexico a bribe, that does not mean that Mexico had any authority over California. According to your source, they were disputed lands. So Mexico made some bogus claim, and Polk offered a bribe for the Mexicans to go away quietly.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-46437149263257332422016-05-29T12:30:13.540-07:002016-05-29T12:30:13.540-07:00In 1844 James K. Polk, the newly-elected president...In 1844 James K. Polk, the newly-elected president, made a proposition to the Mexican government to purchase the disputed lands. <br /><br />"If anything, the USA took California from Spain about the same time that Mexico got its independence from Spain."<br /><br />If the U.S. took Calif. from Spain, if anything, then why did a U.S. president try to purchase Calif from Mexico and not Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-53225707532905590822016-05-29T11:45:03.396-07:002016-05-29T11:45:03.396-07:00MEXICO CONTROLLED CALIFORNIA. IT IS A FACT.
Calif...<br />MEXICO CONTROLLED CALIFORNIA. IT IS A FACT.<br />California under Mexican rule (1821–1846)<br /><br />Substantial changes occurred during the second quarter of the 19th century. The victory in the Mexican War of Independence from Spain in 1821 marked the end of a European power ruling California; the missions faded in importance under Mexican control, while ranching and trade increased.<brAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-943550291092856592016-05-27T18:42:53.749-07:002016-05-27T18:42:53.749-07:00Are you trying to convince me that California righ...Are you trying to convince me that California rightfully belongs to Mexico because some Mexicans might have wanted that in 1821? No, Mexico never controlled California, and Mexican efforts to invade California today have been bad for California.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-23921400640814568492016-05-27T16:16:20.647-07:002016-05-27T16:16:20.647-07:00Mexico began independence from Spain in 1821 and t...<br />Mexico began independence from Spain in 1821 and the U.S. took Calif from Mexico decades later. I have cited facts that contradict your opinion. I don't think that you have cited facts that support your opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-25834820634016152142016-05-27T13:59:31.320-07:002016-05-27T13:59:31.320-07:00No, the USA did not take California from Mexico. I...No, the USA did not take California from Mexico. If anything, the USA took California from Spain about the same time that Mexico got its independence from Spain.<br /><br />Yes, there are Mexicans in California who wave Mexican flags and try to start riots. They should be treated as an invading force.<br /><br />I post my opinions, but go ahead and cite any facts that you think contradict what I Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-88807527260147126192016-05-27T13:40:49.505-07:002016-05-27T13:40:49.505-07:00Anonymous: "most Mexicans hard-working and la...Anonymous: "most Mexicans hard-working and law-abiding"<br /><br />So are many Africans! That doesn't give them a right to invade a country. Mexico is one of the most violent places in the world and its drugs and violence are spilling into the US. I have a blog post analysing the crime numbers and studies that try to claim that Latinos are peaceful are completely BOGUS. The Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-67219195056813378302016-05-27T11:21:44.756-07:002016-05-27T11:21:44.756-07:00Why not just look at Mexican occupation of Calif. ...<br />Why not just look at Mexican occupation of Calif. as Manifest Destiny like the U.S. did when it took Calif. from Mexico ? a future event that is sure to happen : a destiny that can be clearly seen and that cannot be changed. It was good enough reasoning for the U.S. in<br />1846, what's wrong with it now ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3452558.post-43595973703010702452016-05-27T10:33:27.348-07:002016-05-27T10:33:27.348-07:00most Mexicans hard-working and law-abiding, and th...most Mexicans hard-working and law-abiding, and that many white Californians are worthless bums. Yes, that is true, So why is this not an issue ? Why does your argument completely lack any sort of statistical data ?<br /><br />Now it is Democrat, and the popular mindset is that of parasites and perverts. Would you consider this a fact or your own opinion ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com